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  • 1.  Bereavement Documentation

    Posted 11-09-2017 04:34 PM
    Do you document contact with bereaved in your patient's clinical record or in a separate location?  Our Hospice documents contact with bereaved in each patient's Netsmart clinical record.  However, it seems odd to document grief-related coping issues in a deceased patient's clinical record.

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    Howard Travers
    Bereavement Services Manager
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  • 2.  RE: Bereavement Documentation

    Posted 11-10-2017 09:19 AM
    ​Our bereaved are given their own record. The only time they are charted about in a patient record is if a bereaved is a legal guardian (or something of the like which can be different depending on what their circumstance was), does not have an emotional relationship to the patient, and has declined services.

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    Monica Cagayat, LMFT
    Bereavement Coordinator
    EvergreenHealth Hospice
    Kirkland, WA
    425-899-3956
    mjcagayat@evergreenhealthcare.org
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  • 3.  RE: Bereavement Documentation

    Posted 11-14-2017 12:02 PM

    We also use Netsmart and we also have created our own business unit for Bereavement Counseling.  We also enter Community Bereaved clients in that business unit.  It works well, as each person has their own chart, we aren't documenting in a deceased patient's record, and MY DAY can be used as it should be used – with contact information, client status, etc. available at a glance.  The down side is that it is time-consuming to manually enter each bereaved person's information into that business unit.

     

    Marcia Patterson Vanard, LCSW

    Director, Counseling and Education Center

    Hospice and Palliative Care of Greensboro

    2500 Summit Avenue

    Greensboro, NC 27405

    336-621-5565

    Fax: 336-621-4516

     




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  • 4.  RE: Bereavement Documentation

    Posted 11-10-2017 09:21 AM
    ​I document under the bereaved individual, not the patient's clinical record. We use McKesson and when we generate service orders for mailings/phone calls to the bereaved, it creates a record for all of those family members identified to receive bereavement services. This allows me to provide individual plans of care for the bereaved, because if we document only under the patient, it's hard to keep it straight if there are 3 adult children all in bereavement services, for example.


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    Teske Vance

    Mary Greeley Hospice
    Bereavement Coordinator
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  • 5.  RE: Bereavement Documentation

    Posted 11-10-2017 11:18 AM
    ​Hi Howard,
    Our hospice bereavement program also uses Netsmart. We have created our own business unit to keep their notes in a separate spot. Each client has their own chart where we add information re: calls, newsletter and counseling.
    Hope this helps,
    Cindi

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    Cindi Gray, LCSW
    Director, Grief Support Programs
    Hospice of Santa Cruz County
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  • 6.  RE: Bereavement Documentation

    Posted 11-10-2017 11:23 AM
    Hi All.

    We also utilize Netsmart. Each family member has a "Resource" created and added under the "Family and Friends" tab for each patient. When you look up the resource there are different tabs. One tab is for contact information, another for demographics, and there's one for "notes". We write our notes in this spot. 
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                   Warm Regards,

     



    Naala Richards, MSW, ASW
    Bereavement Counselor

    Visiting Nurse & Hospice Care
    602 E. Montecito St.
    Santa Barbara, CA 93103
    Office:  (805) 690-6296

    Noelle.Richards@vnhcsb.org

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  • 7.  RE: Bereavement Documentation

    Posted 11-10-2017 12:42 PM

    We do our Bereavement Plan of Care, Problem Charting and Clinical Notes all in the electronic record of the deceased. We too use NetSmart.

     

    Jane E. Olivier/BSW

    Bereavement Coordinator

    Home Health and Hospice

    Wellspring Lutheran Services

    100 Mayer Rd.

    Frankenmuth, MI 48734

     

    989.262.7411    Direct

    989.652.4663    Ext. 5301

     

    Hope Flows Through Us

    jolivier@wellspringlutheran.com

    www.wellspringlutheran.com

     

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  • 8.  RE: Bereavement Documentation

    Posted 11-10-2017 12:45 PM
    ​Yes, we use NetSmart as well and our Bereavement Plan of Care, Problem Charting and Clinical Notes are all done in the deceased's Clinical Record.
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  • 9.  RE: Bereavement Documentation

    Posted 11-10-2017 01:47 PM
    ​We actually document bereavement as part of the patient clinical record. I think as long as there is some way that the pre- death caregiver (grief) assessment and care plans can be accessed by the bereavement team so that there is a continuity of the story pre and post death, that having a separate bereavement chart is fine.

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    Robin Fiorelli LCSW
    Sr. Director of Bereavement and Volunteers
    VITAS
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  • 10.  RE: Bereavement Documentation

    Posted 11-11-2017 04:05 PM

    OUR EMR has a full bereavement record where LCSW, MSW, Chaplain and Bereavement Coordinator can all document contact ( phone, visits, mail) with

    Bereaved. This EMR does link to the patient Record, only as bereaved.

    Our Volunteers System wide are not allowed any computer access.

     




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  • 11.  RE: Bereavement Documentation

    Posted 11-13-2017 06:38 AM

    Hi-

    We are rather new to Net Smart but we document in the patients chart.  Sometimes the visit is pre-bereavement...We do have separate business units for palliative care people and community people.  Hope this helps.

     

    Lori

     

    Lori J. Mercer

    Indiana University Health

    950 N. Meridian Street

    Indianapolis, IN 46204

    lmercer@iuhealth.org




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  • 12.  RE: Bereavement Documentation

    Posted 11-13-2017 09:22 AM

    We have set up a bereaved record in Netsmart.  It is not part of the patient record.

     

    Debbie Ronaldo

    Chief Compliance Officer /Director of QAPI

    Hospice of Marion County

    3231 SW 34th Ave.

    Ocala, Florida   34478

     

    352-873-7442

    352-274-3846 (cell)

    352-873-7444 (fax)

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  • 13.  RE: Bereavement Documentation

    Posted 11-13-2017 11:30 AM
    We use NetSmart also. We chart in the pt's file for the Bereaved. I am not seeing a separate "notes" tab under the Resources - must be something that IT has to add. 

    For those that are charting elsewhere, other than pt's chart, do you still use the Plan of Care tab attached to the pt's chart? Our Social Workers open the Bereavement Plan of Care when they do their Initial Risk Assessment. 

    What is the reasoning behind not using the Clinical Notes in the patient's chart? I have not consider that this could be an issue, what am I missing? I like that all the notes and assessments are all in the same place. Our Post-Death assessment has to show the continuity of care - we address issues presented in the SW assessment - and anything else from IDT, or a team member that brings something to our attention.

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    Jolene Currie
    Director of Bereavement
    Niagara Hospice
    Lockport, NY 14094
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  • 14.  RE: Bereavement Documentation

    Posted 11-13-2017 11:57 AM

    IT created a bereaved record under "branch"  which includes initial bereavement contact, plan of care, clinical notes, etc. 

     

    Deb

     

    Debbie Ronaldo

    Chief Compliance Officer /Director of QAPI

    Hospice of Marion County

    3231 SW 34th Ave.

    Ocala, Florida   34478

     

    352-873-7442

    352-274-3846 (cell)

    352-873-7444 (fax)

    HomeFreePrize

     

     

    President Theodore Roosevelt said "In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing....and the worst thing you can do is nothing."  Do the right thing, because it is the right thing to do.

     

     

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