Bereavement Professional

  • 1.  documentation question?

    Posted 04-20-2016 05:49 PM

    Hello,

    I work at Mission Hospice in San Mateo, and we just switched from Suncoast to Kinnser for our patient database. I am wondering if anyone else uses Kinnser for bereavement documentation, and what process you have to document counseling calls, cards and visits? It seems that Kinnser has very limited bereavement functions. When I asked the trainer about how to document bereavement tasks, he shared that no one had asked that question before!

     

    So, any advice or thoughts from fellow Kinnser users?

     

    Thank you!!

     

    Isabel Stenzel MSW MPH

    Bereavement Counselor- Adults, Teens and Children

    Mission Hospice and Home Care

    1670 S. Amphlett Blvd., Suite 310

    San Mateo, CA 94402

    Cell 650-753-4938

    Phone 650-532-2338

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  • 2.  RE: documentation question?

    Posted 04-21-2016 10:43 AM

    I have not used either of the  programs you listed; but,  I have used Cerner in the past,  and for the past year I have been using Health Care First.

    The bereavement module part of both programs is very limited. Cerner was extremely limited; but Health Care First is a little better. The problem is it does not come that way. I have had to constantly teach myself and work on it and tweak it over the past year and it still is not perfect as the sales and training people say. Bereavement is clearly not the companies first priority.

    My supervisors were able to go in the system and add the contacts I asked for like, phone call, visit, calling hours, funeral and  support group.

    You could also just select a basic case note, or case communication, and type whether it was a phone call, visit, group, etc. at  the top of the narrative. Don't forget to include their risk level. That is what the surveyors wanted to see in the last survey.

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    Mary McCune
    Bereavement Coordinator
    Health Services of Coshocton County



  • 3.  RE: documentation question?

    Posted 04-21-2016 12:54 PM

    Okay, I deleted my initial response, let's try this again. We switched from Allscripts to Kinnser in October. It seems to me that the documentation options for bereavement, beginning w/initial assessments, is pretty woeful. The Kinnser rep explained it to us as they don't want to lock you into anything so they just leave it open. It seems a little too "open" to me. Would be nice to have more structure and capability. I'm not the BC, but do the assessments and first few contacts after death. I also find that the information on bereavement assessments, that is supposed to autofill after the first time, generally has to be entered anew each time. Ggggrrrrrrrr. Not yet a fan.

     

    David Houtchens, MSW, CSWA

    Medical Social Worker

     

    mailto:dhoutchens@klamathhospice.org

    (541) 882-2902

    Klamath Hospice, Inc

    4745 S. 6th Street

    Klamath Falls, Oregon  97603

     

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